Hetzer Tank Destroyer

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Hetzer Tank Destroyer

Postby 50th » Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:41 pm

This is one of my favorite tank destroyers because of its size, and mobility, it was used by armies well past WWII.

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I saw one when i went to the Ft Knox armor museum (which isn't there anymore).

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I have the New Vanguard (by Osprey Military Books) book on the Hetzer.
I also have a model of a Hetzer that I will be putting together this winter, I will take photo's later.
Here is a video on the Hetzer I found:


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Re: Hetzer Tank Destroyer

Postby 50th » Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:53 pm

After putting groceries away, found this video, very good!


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More info later, looking forward to starting on model, once I get over this cold (and bronchitis).
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Re: Hetzer Tank Destroyer

Postby McCoy » Fri Nov 20, 2015 7:59 pm

The Panzerjaeger 38(t) was a good tank hunter as it had a potent gun for it's size and it had a low height and alltogether small size on a proven hull. But it was hardly a dream for the crews to operate with a really crammed fighting compartment. Good only for hit and run ambushes though due to it's weak armour but at least easy to hide.

By the way Hetzer wasn't it's name as that was what the E-10 was to be called and it's an after construction after the war.

It was only the Czech and the Swizz that used it after WWII.
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Re: Hetzer Tank Destroyer

Postby Whiterook » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:33 pm

McCoy wrote:The Panzerjaeger 38(t) was a good tank hunter as it had a potent gun for it's size and it had a low height and alltogether small size on a proven hull. But it was hardly a dream for the crews to operate with a really crammed fighting compartment. Good only for hit and run ambushes though due to it's weak armour but at least easy to hide.

By the way Hetzer wasn't it's name as that was what the E-10 was to be called and it's an after construction after the war.

It was only the Czech and the Swizz that used it after WWII.


I believe you're both right :lol: ....unless I am totally off here, what Ron is referring to is the Jagdpanzer-38(t) Hetzer
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Re: Hetzer Tank Destroyer

Postby McCoy » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:42 pm

Whiterook wrote:I believe you're both right :lol: ....unless I am totally off here, what Ron is referring to is the Jagdpanzer-38(t)


There mate, I fixed it for you! ;-)

Seriously though, this is one of my weaknesses as I'm running a lifelong crusade against myths and like this, a simple name that isn't correct. It's the historian in me that want it to be right.
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Re: Hetzer Tank Destroyer

Postby Whiterook » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:03 pm

McCoy wrote:
Whiterook wrote:I believe you're both right :lol: ....unless I am totally off here, what Ron is referring to is the Jagdpanzer-38(t)


There mate, I fixed it for you! ;-)

Seriously though, this is one of my weaknesses as I'm running a lifelong crusade against myths and like this, a simple name that isn't correct. It's the historian in me that want it to be right.


:lol: The only reason I had an inkling on this was because I've been preparing a sale of some German miniatures, and this beastie is one of them....and I remember looking at it when I bought it and wondering aloud..."What the hell is this!?!" :shock:
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Re: Hetzer Tank Destroyer

Postby MAGNA » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:16 am

The Hetzer became an important vehicle in the late war period as it was a hit and run tank hitter. This is what Germany needed at the time.
The frontal armour let it destroy the T34 at around 700m while the T34 had to get to around 400m - this includes the T34/85.

The side armour on the Hetzer was it's real weakness. Not good.

The gun being mounted to the right was a problem too as it was loaded from the right so there was hardly any room. This meant a low rate
of fire.

This was offset somewhat by the profile which was small. Hard to see usually gets you first shot. After that the Hetzer could use it's
good speed to get to another position.

Many units used this vehicle from late 1944 and it was produced right up to the end of the war.

For late war gaming this is a good little unit although it tends to be left aside a lot. I think we only have two or three for use in our table
top games. Probably should have more.
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Re: Hetzer Tank Destroyer

Postby Whiterook » Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:43 pm

MAGNA wrote:For late war gaming this is a good little unit although it tends to be left aside a lot. I think we only have two or three for use in our table top games. Probably should have more.


Those were all amazing comments...

I have these tin cans in my Axis & Allies Miniatures OOB, but have to admit that I have never included them in any actual battles; mainly, because I didn't know how to use them, or their capabilities (strengths and weaknesses). Now that I know the facts just presented, I am more comfortable with their inclusion...not to mention the realism/reality behind using them! :D

This is a prime example of why I wanted to have these boards on the site.... to learn more about the real implements portrayed on our game boards (...and modeling).
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Re: Hetzer Tank Destroyer

Postby Ecarots » Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:28 pm

Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it, Those who fail to learn history correctly...........Why they are simply doomed


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