Original film or remake?

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Original film or remake?

1 The original is always better
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2 The original is usually better
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40%
3 50/50
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60%
4 The remake is usually better
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5 The remake is always better
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No votes
 
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Original film or remake?

Postby Frank » Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:45 pm

There have been quite a few remakes of classic films made in the last few years, some, like Cape Fear I think are at least as good, if not better than the original, most worse. Barb Wire anyone? Some I am not even sure are remakes like Enemy Mine, is that a remake of Hell In The Pacific?

I personally go with option 2, what do you guys think?
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Re: Original film or remake?

Postby Ecarots » Sun Oct 19, 2014 2:41 pm

I voted 50/50 if the remake was made 15 years ago, if now original was better due to intrusion of current political "messages". A remake that sticks in my mind as better was Sahara original Humphrey Bogart who was the best part of the original, The remake was with Jim Belushi, same story just better (more modern ) cinematography and for some reason the story seemed to flow better .
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Re: Original film or remake?

Postby Lucky Luke » Sun Oct 19, 2014 3:32 pm

Frank wrote:Enemy Mine, is that a remake of Hell In The Pacific?


No Frank, it's one of the worst (in my opinion) "porting" of a book (well, a short story written by Barry Longyear) of all times!

I read the original story on the Italian's version of the Asimov's Science Fiction magazine and I loved it!
When I saw the movie I almost exited after ten minutes but stood my ground until the end...bleah!

Maybe without knowing the original story it''s only a mediocre movie...

I can't say more thing about the book without spoiling the story if anyone wanted to read it: I can say that you should like it because characters's interaction causes them to evolve within the story ...
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Re: Original film or remake?

Postby 50th » Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:50 pm

I went with 50/50 because sometimes the remake is better because of better technology to bring the story out. But sometimes they use movies to push a point that just wasn't in the original movie. I'm thinking of "The Day the Earth Stood Still. In the original, the aliens were trying to keep us from annihilate each other with nuclear weapons, and the remake became about environmental issues. I hate it when they hijack a good movie to push an agenda!
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Re: Original film or remake?

Postby Frank » Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:08 am

I think a lot of films reflect the current thinking, look at all of the horror films released in the late 50`s and 60`s with radiation mutated beasties nearly destroying us. That said, I watch a movie for entertainment not to be lectured at.

I love the old horror films, the original Hallow`een`s and Bob Clarke`s Black Christmas are both masterpieces of suspense with the main focus of the film being the central characters, and their gory deaths. You were able to care about the characters, in the remakes they are just there to be butchered, It seems part of the way they do things these days with special effects being far more important than character developement.
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Re: Original film or remake?

Postby Lucky Luke » Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:16 am

Frank wrote:I think a lot of films reflect the current thinking, look at all of the horror films released in the late 50`s and 60`s with radiation mutated beasties nearly destroying us. That said, I watch a movie for entertainment not to be lectured at.

I love the old horror films, the original Hallow`een`s and Bob Clarke`s Black Christmas are both masterpieces of suspense with the main focus of the film being the central characters, and their gory deaths. You were able to care about the characters, in the remakes they are just there to be butchered, It seems part of the way they do things these days with special effects being far more important than character developement.


A masterpiece (as a horror movie) is Alien ....yep, if you swap the spaceship with a castle or a cabin in the snow-covered wood or whatever you can think as an enclosed location, you can almost preserve all the plot without major changes.

I watched for the first time Alien on TV and I was quite thrilled by the built-up of the situation like a slow unstoppable landslide. The monster is hidden for the first half of the movie and you conjure in your mind, using the clues on the scene, weird silhouettes even if the 'real' Alien is way too weird to think of....

On the contrary Aliens, with the gun-toting Colonial Marines, is the only movie to generate so many muzzle-flashes to allow for newspaper reading...and the horror was almost soothed by the weight of lead the marines could throw around.
Maybe a parable of gun-control : "When I'm armed I'm in control ?" talk about control with tens of pissed-off Aliens...! :mrgreen:
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Re: Original film or remake?

Postby Frank » Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:39 pm

Yeah. Alien is a classic :D . I enjoyed all four films though for different reasons. I totally agree that the slow build up of tension in the first film is so much better than the gung-ho attitude of the second.But Alien itself, if not actually a remake, is seemingly inspired by an old black and white movie, which is just so bad that it is almost good. I saw it on tv a few years ago and a lot of the elements in Alien are there, but not the facehuggers and implantation. I noticed the similarities straight away and looked it up online

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Re: Original film or remake?

Postby McCoy » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:30 pm

The newer the remake is the worse it is as the concentration today is more on CGI and effects than acting that is the real core of a movie.
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Re: Original film or remake?

Postby Whiterook » Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:07 pm

I went 50/50 on this, too. There have been some spectacular remakes, but they are getting more rare it seems to me; mainly, because of the horrendous industry over concentration on Millennials. It depends on the actors used, to me. Couple instances:

John Carpenter's "The Thing". Holy SHIT that movie still scares the shit out of me. Kurt Russell is The Man in that flick; but look at Alfred Brimley (sp?), who makes me shiver in his whacked scenes. By the end of the movie, I've broken out the scotch and am drinking with Kurt!

"War of the Worlds" ...yeah, it's got Cruise, but dang, he did a good job in it. The actor that stole the show for me was Tom Robbins! He scare the shit out of me more than the aliens. But to digress, the filming was spectacular and haunting; but the story also felt so much more developed.

What I'd like to see is a remake of some classic WWII flicks like "The Longest Day"!
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