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Jutland

Postby Ecarots » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:57 pm

I just finished watching an interesting 2 parter on youtube investigating what actually caused the loss of British battlecruisers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_xtimui_HE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0D3J6Yvi94

The evidence shown points to poor cordite handling habits in order to speed up firing.
After watching this and the coverup shown at the end it made me think of the Hood in world war 2. Simular type event, was the same errors made there?
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Re: Jutland

Postby Ecarots » Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:39 pm

Further research brought out a quote form an eyewitness to HMS Hoods sinking.

Leading seaman Hubert Fackrell, in communication with Hood by box light, saw it as ". . . a fire with bright flame - it was a blue flame - and I got the impression at the time that it was a cordite fire. The flames were very fierce and very high

This is from the middeck fire that occurred before the explosion.

In the documentary was stated the order was not to starve the guns, so the tendancy was to bypass the saftey protocals in order to keep up the rate of fire. Could this have been still used at the beginning of WW2?
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Re: Jutland

Postby Frank » Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:32 am

I would have thought it probably would still be the practice, after all, if you are getting shot at then the natural thing to do is to kill the opponent before they kill you so a fast rate of fire would be a high priority. As far as I know, up until recently, the main theory was that we had not (as usual) learned the lessons from our last engagement and mainly armoured the sides of the ship, paying little attention to the decks.

I have not had time to do re than have a quick skim through but they look really interesting, thanks for putting them up.
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